Response To No Moral Victories

During the entire Knicks vs. Celtics playoffs series, The Campus Socialite (Knicks) will square off against Dueling Couches (Celtics) in a trash talk showdown. We’re taking this rivalry from the courts to the blogs.

Those scumbag New Yorkers obviously are getting nervous over there in shit city that they feel the need to defend an 0-2 team in the playoff that are most likely going to lose Chauncey Billups and Amare for game 2. The responded to our No Moral Victories post.

Here it is:
Under normal circumstances it would suck to write a post after losing two consecutive playoff games by a total of 4 points. Nobody likes to lose and there is definitely no such thing as a moral victory in the playoffs. But shit, we played our asses off last night, Melo did EXACTLY what I said he’d do, dominated an inferior team. There isn’t a player in the NBA who can guard Melo when his jumper is falling like it was last night. Plenty of New Yorkers are playing the “if we only had our starters” game and it may even be true that losing an MVP quality player for the most important game your team has played in ten years is less than ideal. More so than that though, we SHOULD have beaten the defending Eastern Conference Champions for the second game in a row last night. We out-played them, had a lead in the final minute and just couldn’t seal the deal. The unfortunate excuse of an NBA basketball player that is Jared Jeffries has graced us with his incompetence once again. He teased us with a dynamic driving layup to take the lead in the final minute only to completely blow the game on the final two important possessions. The coaching mistakes were evident, Carmelo MUST come off of Delonte West and double Garnett in the post and Dantoni is directly to blame for not making that known. Also, in his post-game presser Mike D said “Melo was gassed and couldn’t chase Delonte into the backcourt on the final play”. THEN TAKE HIM OUT AND HAVE SOMEONE FRESH MAKE THE FOUL!!! We are fouling on purpose anyway and could have brought Carmelo back in the game after the first free throw. I wanted to see, for once in the past 2+ seasons, Dantoni actually win a game by outcoaching his counterpart and now I have no faith that will ever happen.

It is going to take an infusion from THE Garden crown on Friday night to bring the Bockers back into this series and that is exactly what we are going to get. The place is going to be rocking, you will feel it through the television. People in Boston will be drinking discounted beers in their mom’s basements and screaming at the tv in horror. They won’t understand what is happening, their hated NY fan base showing up and making a difference in the game? WOW. We don’t need bad calls and dirty players to win, yea im talking to you KG and Big Baby. It amazing what these guys get away with and then scream and cry whenever they hear a whistle. Bunch of bitches on that Boston team and I “CANT WAIT” (Bart Scott Voice) to take them out of the playoffs just like the J-E-T-S did to Tom Brady and his soft bunch of pussies in January.

The Answer Gets An Answer

During the entire Knicks vs. Celtics playoffs series, The Campus Socialite (Knicks) will square off against Dueling Couches (Celtics) in a trash talk showdown. We’re taking this rivalry from the courts to the blogs.

Remember when our own Answer ranted about this

“Ummm so I just got done reading this little battle between DC and Camp Social Fuck and I’m checking into the game here. Now I’m not doing it because I have some long rant and rebuttal to their stupid fucking article about the 90′s, I actually only have one thing to say (and I’ll take this moment to say a few other things.)” More

Well the Campus Social Fucks responded:
First was a response by someone called “The Answer” which ironically only left me with questions, like who allowed this clown to actually publish something on their site, and why everything he says contradicts itself to the point that I don’t know what the hell this dude is trying to accomplish. My time spent on replying to “The Answer” will be limited simply because I have better shit to do. In response to you calling us “Camp Social Fuck”, that sounds like the most awesome place ever, and being that you probably can’t afford a lawyer I am going to go ahead coin that phrase, and make a t-shirt out of it.



Then on to your actual commentary about the game I will say the following; I find it funny that you feel Rondo (can’t shoot), Jeff Green (bum), and Big Baby (mush) lead you to a level of confidence in the future. The fact that you are counting on a draft pick and the hope of a free agent, doesn’t sound very promising either.

To your points on defense, and the Knicks lack there of, we have held your Boston Celtics under 100 pts two games in a row. I think our defense has been decent enough. And to demonstrate how contradictory your ignorant arguments are, you first mention how D’Antoni will be fired, and then say how we wont ever win a championship because of his game plan. Good point dude. Well thought out.

You compare the Knicks to the Atlanta Hawks. The Hawks don’t have Melo or Amare, they have Josh Smith. Relax on that comparison kid.

The Knicks were by far the more effective team in the half court offense, it was Boston’s offense that all came from their running game. If you have watched the Knicks in this series or prior to the playoffs, you would know that with the addition of Melo and Billups we have transformed them from a running team to a more half court offense. Which makes your statement about how the knicks running style offense will never win in the playoffs, irrelevant. Lastly, RAY ALLEN might be the best shooter ever, but he was only open because Garnett tripped Toney Douglas, and the ref didn’t call it because you blew him before the game.

Im out.

- Drew

Another Reason to Hate New York... The Knicks

During the entire Knicks vs. Celtics playoffs series, The Campus Socialite (Knicks) will square off against Dueling Couches (Celtics) in a trash talk showdown. We’re taking this rivalry from the courts to the blogs.

For all of those who aren't familiar with DuelingCouches.com we've have been very outspoken about how the Knicks, Carmelo Anthony and the aura surrounding the gulag known as Madison Square Garden to be the most overrated and overhyped franchise in the NBA.

First off the Knicks and the hype surrounding the Carmelo Anthony trade was absolutely ridiculous. Do I agree with the trade? Absolutely. I feel it was a real good move for them now and long term. They gave up Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, the Knicks 2014 first-round draft pick, the Warriors' 2012 second-round pick, the Warriors' 2013 second-round pick and $3 million in cash for Anthony and Chauncey Billups and some scrubs. Who would have thought that the 2nd most important player in the deal would be Billups, behind Amare Stoudemire? Carmelo is a nice piece, however people (idiot New Yorkers) believing this team would be a contending team rather than a happy to be in the playoffs team is retarded.

Carmelo Anthony is an outstanding player, no doubt, but the real leader of this team is and will always be Amare Stoudemire. As we saw in game 1 against the Celtics, the Knicks were dominating the Celtics when Amare was the primary scorer and Billups was the main ball handler. As soon as Melo decided to "take over" the game he showed Knicks' fans exactly who they got, which is a ball hogging moron who cares more about his perception then winning game. In the last 11 possessions of the game, Amare didn't get the ball, while Melo went 5-18. That is absurd considering Amare was 12 for 18 in the game and dominating in the paint. You can put some blame on Mike D'Antoni who got completely outcoached by Doc Rivers in the second half, or even that Billups got injured in the final minute, but if your so called "Batman" wants to bring his game to superstar level he needs to pass the ball, instead of tough fade aways or a emotional offensive foul. You want to see how it's done, the Knicks only half to look across the court to a man named Paul Pierce who gave up the final shot and let Ray Allen be the hero. Carmelo cost the Knicks game 1, a winnable game, but instead they are going to play tomorrow in Boston down 0-1 and without their former All Star point guard, when all "Batman" had to do was let Robin take them home.

We shouldn't be surprised about the Knicks overhyping something though. Look at what they do with Madison Square Garden. How is that place so special when the only thing that happens is losing? Really, it is just sad at this point that they even call this Celtics/Knicks games "rivalry games". Paul Pierce said it best "maybe this will be a rivalry when I retire".

We were at the game and the whole time without even looking at shirts or jerseys you could tell who the scumbag Knick fans were. They are loud, obnoxious and are completely entitled for no real reason. If a Knicks fan can tell me how they have been relevant since Willis Reed came back into the game, I'd be shocked. You know what the Knicks are known for in the passed 30 years? Reggie Miller, and them choking (both on the court, and Sprewell). During the whole game they were popping their Stephon Marbury and Penny Hardaway jerseys (I know, that's the most ridiculous thing in the world, that would be like us Boston fans rocking a Vin Baker Jersey or dressing up like Rick Pitino), so it was unbelievable to see how humbled they got when Ray Allen's shot tickled the twine to win the game.

So in my closing statement in this rant, I just want to give the Knicks a big thank you for giving us game 1, we will need the extra time to rest going into round 2.

You can go to Campus Socialite to hear thier rant against the Celtics, and check back the day after every Celtics vs. Knicks game to hear both sides of thier "series".

Carmelo Anthony To Knicks

Its finally over after being the 3rd overall pick and spending 7.5 years in Denver the Nuggets finally dealt the disgruntle SF to the Knicks to play in the most overrated stadium in the league (Madison Square Garden). The Knicks gave the Nuggets a pretty penny as well as they parted with Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov and a 2014 first-round draft pick to the Nuggets, who would get additional picks and cash, the sources said. Along with Anthony, New York would acquire Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams, Anthony Carter and Renaldo Balkman.

In a second deal New York will send Anthony Randolph and Eddy Curry to Minnesota as part of the deal in exchange for Corey Brewer.

So once the dust settles the Knicks starting line up will be Billups, Landry Fields, Carmelo, Amare, and Ronnie Turiaf with Toney Douglas, Corey Brewer and Bill Walker coming off the bench. A decent team, but nothing thats going to win a championship this year. This is a 2 or 3 year rebuilding phase that the Knicks have to deal with. They are competitive enough to make the play offs and Melo should have an easy time transitioning into Mike D'Antoni's system as he doesn't play much defense either.

I think the Knicks gave up a lot, but like I said last week they needed to do this. This will make the missing out on LeBron pain go away and instantly make them a much more credible team then a .500 ball club. I do think they need to get a more defensive minded coach because the D'Antoni system will not work, but this move was great. Anyone who says they gave up too much is an idiot.

Melo Could Have Been Traded To The Knicks Yesterday

But the Knicks balked.

I'm not sure why either, a deal was in place where Melo and Billups went to the Knicks for Danillo Gallinari, Raymond Felton, a starter, Eddie Curry's expiring contract and a 1st round pick.

I know thats a lot and I know they could role the dice and have Melo sign in the offseason but I'm not sure why they wouldn't just say f it lets do it anyways. Melo would replace Gallinari and Billups would be a stop gap until Chris Paul becomes a free agent and whoever the other starters production would most likely be made up for by those two. I know it's a lot but the Knicks shouldn't keep balking at these deals because they could easily go and trade Melo to another team and they will have missed out on another opportunity since the failure of getting LeBron this offseason.

Either way I'm getting tired of all the Melo-drama.

Carmelo To Lakers?

"The Denver Nuggets have had preliminary discussions with the Los Angeles Lakers on a Carmelo Anthony trade, league sources told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard on Tuesday (ESPN)."

The report goes on to say that the deal would have to include Andrew Bynum, which they say would work financially. If my eyes in the Lakers do this it is a complete overreaction to their recent struggles. Melo has made it pretty clear that he wants to go to the Knicks and nowhere else. So, the Lakers would be giving up a 23 year center for a couple month rental. Sure a lineup that had Gasol, Bryant, and Melo would be fun tto watch, but I still think they would have a hard time getting to the finals, especially if they ran into the Spurs during the playoffs.

I just don't see this deal happening, and I think most likely either Melo goes to the Knicks in a trade, or he rides out the season in Denver and goes in the offseason.

The Dirty Russian Has Had Enough With The Melo Talks

"I'm not happy with the way ... this deal has gone until now," Prokhorov said. "It has taken too long. It has been played out in public and it certainly has taken a toll on the players and I believe that it has cost us several games. I think management did a great job, but there comes a time when the price is simply too expensive. I'm instructing our team to walk away from the deal."

Good. You know, I would have liked the deal for the Nets if they could have got Melo, Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton. However, I think the Nets are still salvageable without Melo. If they get a good guard and build around Derrick Favors and Brook Lopez and have a good draft, they could have a very good young team.

But good for the Russian for being sick of being jerked around. This really puts the Nuggets in a bad spot, because Carmelo is definitely walking after this year and they will end up getting 25 cents on the dollar with a deal for him. This might be very good thing for the Knicks. And no BMack we aren't trading Big Baby, Quisy, Jermaine O'Neal, and Avery Bradley for Melo either.

Melo To Meet With The Nets

So it looks like the deal is practically done, all they have to do is get Melo to put the ink to the paper and he will be a Net.

It's a 15 player deal that involves the Nuggets, Pistons, and Nets. Melo has made it clear he wants to be a Knick, however, the Knicks may be better off playing with their roster instead of blowing it up for Melo. To me, the Nets are going to be a New York team, so I don't see any difference.

If he ended up going to the Nets, he would almost take the "Hero" role after the shenanigans that D Bag in South Beach had this post season. The Nets would obviously need a little help, and the speculation around Chris Paul will get louder if he goes there, but the only thing holding this deal up is Melo himself.

It's funny how the East is transforming to be the strongest conference after Western dominance for so many years.

Carmelo Anthony Trade Taking Form

"Multiple sources with knowledge of the talks expressed optimism Sunday that a three-team deal involving the Pistons featuring at least 15 players -- with Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups winding up in New Jersey with Anthony -- could be completed in the next day or two.

Denver, however, elected to play Anthony and Billups in its home game against New Orleans on Sunday night, suggesting that the Nuggets might not be ready to sign off on the trade and, according to sources, frustrating both the Nets and the Pistons at the end of a chaotic 72 hours.

A similar scenario played out in the September deal, when the Nets and Nuggets hammered out the framework of a four-team swap with Charlotte and Utah, only for the Nuggets to decide that they weren't ready to end their relationship with Anthony and back out of the deal."

I don't know if anyone would really win in this deal. The Nets are giving up a lot and taking the risk if Melo decides to flee at the end of the year. Sure they are getting a quick fix team but basing their trade on a lot of ifs, if they can get Chris Paul, if they can build around Melo, if he stays. But since the Nets had a big swing and miss this offseason they are forced to make a splash. For the Nuggets, I don't think they are getting enough in return for Melo with Derrick Favors and some picks but Melo is telling them he's not returning basically. And for Detroit, they just suck.

Melo is a Dick, Knicks fans have to be happy

Carmelo Anthony has told the Denver Nuggets he will not sign the nearly $65 million contract extension he has been offered unless he is traded to the New York Knicks, a source told ESPN.com on Sunday. ESPN

Couple things wrong here. 1 this really handicaps the Nuggets when it comes to trading figuring no other team is going to take a shot at trading for him if they know he's not going to resign. So the Nuggets are ultimately going to take back Danillo Gallinari and Wilson Chandler. 2. Is who the fuck is Melo to make this request, he seems to forget that he's a player. His comments are a big fuck you to the organization that gave him his first shot. We all have learned to not bite the hand that feeds you. 3. If I were his teammates not in a contract year, I would come close to punching him every time you see him. I don't care if he "tries hard" this year, I care that he wants out and has no loyalty to you. In fact, he is requesting to go to a lesser team (well maybe not).

Carmelo, you are falling out of my favor.

Knicks Back After Melo

"The most recent obstacle, according to the source, was for the Knicks to use one of those assets, likely Randolph or Gallinari, to acquire a player from a third team that the Nuggets value more highly than either of the Knicks forwards. The source said that obstacle can now be overcome, with the Knicks confident they can get their hands on a player the Nuggets would prefer." ESPN

The Knicks or Nets really need to make a move after the debacle of an offseason they had. Melo would instantly bring excitement to that area and between him and Amare, that should be enough to get a couple wins in the East. I just hope they do it before the second game, so I can watch Melo lose in person.

New Jersey Pulls Out Of Melo Race Because They Want To Be Awful

The Bergen Record reported that Nets general manager Billy King had issued a Tuesday deadline to the Nuggets to finally accept or reject the original proposal, which would have brought Nets rookie Derrick Favors, Jazz veteran Andrei Kirilenko and two future first-round picks to Denver. Nets guard Devin Harris would have gone to Charlotte and Bobcats forward Boris Diaw would have headed to Utah. ESPN

I don't think the Nets are in any position to be setting any deadlines. Carmelo is really necessary for New Jersey since they struck out pretty severely this offseason. If I were the Nets I would trade anything and everything for Carmelo Anthony. I would trade Devin Harris and Derrick Favors and the next 5 1st round picks for Carmelo if that was possible.

But I guess like always, New Jersey is just going to suck.

Melo To NJ, Maybe Not?

Just when you thought the Nuggets were ready to send Melo to NJ. They spent the weekend talking to other teams in an attempt to see if teams such as New York, Chicago or the Los Angeles Clippers could trump the four-way framework that would bring Nets rookie Derrick Favors, Jazz veteran Andrei Kirilenko and two future first-round picks to Denver in return for Anthony, with the Nets also sending point guard Devin Harris to Charlotte and Utah acquiring veteran forward Boris Diaw from the Bobcats.

I like the approach the Nuggets are taking with Carmelo. Yes, he's amazing, but if you let him play all year he's going to walk away leaving Denver with nothing. If he goes to NJ that would be a hell of a signing for them who struck out on every other free agent this offseason. Melo would obviously be a great starting point, and it seems an extension is the only thing holding up this deal, but they have enough money to make it work.

Prediction: It's a done deal to the Nets this week.

Walsh Regrets Trading 2012 Pick

"Knicks president Donnie Walsh was so desperate last February to have the most cap room during the summer that he included their 2012 first round pick in the three-team trade with Houston and Sacramento that brought Tracy McGrady to New York. Walsh said Wednesday he regrets the decision, especially since Houston has included that pick in a proposed package for Carmelo Anthony.

"I'll second-guess myself forever on that," Walsh told the New York Daily News. "I've always wondered about that. I didn't like it when we did it (ESPN)."

The Knicks are such a joke. It really is just hilarious at this point. Carmelo wants to play for the Knicks, but they were stupid enough to trade away everything, so there is really no way the Nuggets will send him to the Big Apple. Most likely it will be the Nets that get him, and that could be really bad news for the Knicks, especially when they move to Brooklyn.

Carmelo Anthony Wants Out Of Denver

Carmelo Anthony wants out of Denver. First he didn't take their extension and now it's not an if but when is Carmelo Anthony going to be traded.

ESPN Reports:
According to the executive, the Nuggets want young players and draft picks for Anthony. Two teams that could offer a package like that are the Los Angeles Clippers and New Jersey Nets.

Wojnarowski lists the Golden State Warriors and Houston Rockets as teams who could be in the mix for Anthony and the Charlotte Bobcats as a sleeper team because they can give the Nuggets a lot of salary cap relief, due to Erick Dampier's $13 million non-guaranteed contract.

If he went to NJ this whole offseason bust would go away. Carmelo has a NY bias and if he goes to NJ or NYK he will get his way, but it seems as if the Nuggests don't care what Melo wants. I can't even throw some names out there because I don't know whats off limits or not with those listed teams, but I'm sure anyone would be available if there was a shot to get Melo.

I think he should just take a massive pay cut and come to Boston.

Carmelo Is Going To The Knicks

Some writers are starting to connect the dots, and they all seem to end with Carmelo Anthony joining the Knicks...

"These are some of the dots: He's selling his Littleton estate; the constant reports of Anthony telling friends that he wants to play for the New York Knicks; his New York wedding; his East Coast upbringing; summer trade talk that has cropped up twice in his time in Denver, which hasn't always made him feel wanted; oh, and not signing a contract that averages around $21.6 million per year for the next three years, a sizable amount of money that he may not be able to earn with a new collective bargaining agreement.

Anthony has connected some dots of his own. Even if he was completely happy with the Nuggets now, in three years he may look around at a team that is a shell of the one that reached the Western Conference finals in 2009. It could be young and inexperienced. It could be filled with mediocre talent. His NBA biological clock would be ticking loudly because he would be in his 10th season. There's no way he wants to start over 10 seasons into his career (CBS)."

Way back when all the Lebron stuff started I bought that he was going to the Knicks. Obviously later Miami was the one that could put him and his two fuck buddies on the same team. Yet, once again I am going to buy this. I think Melo really does want to play in NY, and even though the Knicks don't deserve it they will eventually have a couple high profile stars, just because of the city of NY.

The Knicks are a joke, and they are so lucky that so many people want to live in NY. If it wasn't for that this would be a bottom franchise year in and year out forever.

Chris Paul's Plan

"During Nuggets forward Carmelo Anthony's wedding reception Saturday night in New York, Hornets guard Chris Paul reportedly made a toast in which he got in a playful jab at buddy LeBron James, saying, "We'll form our own Big Three," referring to himself, Anthony and new Knicks forward Amar'e Stoudemire (WEEI)."

This is interesting since all the news coming from the Nuggets states that Carmelo will ink a new deal before the season starts, because he wants to get paid before the new CBA comes out. Yet, after what Miami did, I really can't say this won't happen. If they were able to get these 3 guys together, it could be a very nice lineup for the Knicks. Paul is a great distributor, Melo is an elite scorer, and when Amare wants to be he is a great inside presence. I am sure we will hear a lot more rumors about this, but I still expect Melo to stay in Denver.

Melo On The Block

The Nuggets are considering trading Carmelo Anthony. They offered him a 3 year 65 million dollar deal and they are thinking of dealing the 26 year old if he doesn't sign on the dotted line.

This is actually a smart move because the Nuggets don't want to deal with the BS Cleveland is going through right now. Also, Melo would be stupid to turn down the extension because of the potential lockout and that's a lot of money to walk away from.

But yea, I'm all for the Nuggets refusal to be held hostage by a player.

This Lebron Guy Is Good At Basketball

I got to see the end of this game as I was waiting for the Celtics/Lakers game to come on, and man am I glad I did. James had his triple-double by the end of regulation, and became the first NBA player with at least 43 points, 13 rebounds, 15 assists, two steals and four blocks. That is fucking crazy!!!

What is even more crazy is that it wasn't enough. Carmelo Anthony was with him every step of the way scoring 40 points himself including the game winning basket. I think it is about time people start putting Melo in that Kobe, Lebron, Wade category.

Melo Out At Least 3 Weeks

Carmelo Anthony will be out of the Denver Nuggets line-up for at least 3 weeks. Melo and the Nuggets have been an extremely effective team since the Chauncey Billups trade, and are actually a scary team in the west. This will be a long three weeks without Carmelo. Linas Kluiza will try his hardest to fill the roll but those are real big shoes to fill. I expect the Nuggets will ultimately be OK, but this will kill all the Nuggets season momentum.